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Schanulleke
Feb-07-2004, 12:15 GMT
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Netherlands

"Let the man do what he likes because that is what you like". Bodo, this is very unfair of you to say, because first of all you don´t know what I like and do not like. And second, in my opinion, you should really stop telling Paul Simon what he should do and what he should not do, and try to respect the things he does.

skywriter
Feb-07-2004, 12:17 GMT
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Germany

Bodo? When you think they don´t harmonize and I get more and more the impression you aren´t a Simon&Garfunkel fan at all, why do you flew to Miami to join a show??? Isn´t it a terribly waste of money and time?

Bodo
Feb-07-2004, 12:34 GMT
IP:
Austria

It was a waste of money to see this concert. I thought they were better, but I wasn´t in any way impressed.
Miami and Florida was cool

Kuno 
Feb-07-2004, 12:36 GMT
IP:
Switzerland

With my deepest respect to Bodo, i just wanted to ask the same question as skywriter....

Bodo
Feb-07-2004, 12:47 GMT
IP:
Austria

Oh, I´m not in the position of telling Paul Simon what he should do or not. Am I?
It is my opinion, thats all - or do you think I now make a call this afternoon and tell him "Hey man stop that, I don´t like it"

It´s the 3th time that I heard this assumption now that WE are going to tell the man what he should do.
I don´t like it, and other true PS fan´s also don´t like it. I know even people who boycotted the tour and didn´t go to any concert, like the people from thedreamerofmusic or Simon Murgatroyd, a fan since 1972. They understood that this will not result in any remarkable. Its 2 Old guys celebrating their history 34 years back and, wallowing in sentiment.
The only good thinkg Paul could do now after this Europe tour is to say:"It was nice, we loved it, but now I will go on make my way again. If not he has lost all my respect to him, because everything he ever said about artistical meaning is then untrue and he´s only going the commercial way"

But I think there´s a big chance that he is doing that, because he tried to sepparate between S&G and his solo career, he tried not to merge these 2 parts and sing solo songs like ´Still crazy´ on this tour.

Kuno
Feb-07-2004, 12:50 GMT
IP:
Switzerland

Right, Bodo, I have to admit that, right after you came back, you told that the show wasn´t that great.
Anyway, I am looking forward to the european shows, because I never saw one of them live....so I will even have the "wow-i am in the same room as S/G-feeling"in the first minutes *g*

To came back to the topic: I really prefer a Paul solo album, and we all will get it this year.
But I think too that it would be very nice to hear S/G in the studio again...I guess they will harmonize better on a studio album than on stage ;o)

Ans Koenen
Feb-07-2004, 13:07 GMT
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Netherlands

It´s like Bodo said, just finish this europe tour and then go their seperate ways.
We only have the interview of Art to go on, I´m very curious if Paul feels the same way.

In a way the tour together I can understand a bit because they did it before, and as Paul said it will be probably the last time (hopefully) but I don´t think they harmonize together not even with the studio tricks. So no new S&G album for me too. Paul said he had a lot of respect for Miles Davis and that he wants to keep changing like Miles Davis did. So I will hold on to that for now.

Willow
Feb-07-2004, 14:02 GMT
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USA - United Staates America

"In a few years they all will be dead?"

*ahem* excuse me but there are many teenaged S&G fans. And my parents are S&G from their highschool days and they are far far from dying in a few years. The age joke is what´s Old.

Paul won´t do it if he doesn´t want to, believe me. But gosh, Art isn´t that bad once you get to know him and his music. His fans are the smartest sweetest people you´ll ever find.

miriam
Feb-07-2004, 14:35 GMT
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Germany

You are right Willow, I agree with you. I am 21 and listen to S&G ;-)

I don´t understand why most of you are so disappointed about the album news. We don´t even know IF it´s going to happen, and you already expect the "worst". I can already see it: First a petition FOR an S&G European tour, and now a petition AGAINST a new S&G album. That´s silly!

Well, I´m not really sure what to think about this discussion. On the one hand, I´d like to see a new PS album, too, but on the other hand, a new S&G album would be very interesting as well. Who knows which style the songs would be? I can imagine a nice album with beautiful harmonies, melodies and lyrics. It´s strange to say that, but what would you expect from a new PS solo album? Couldn´t a new S&G album just be as creative and nice as a PS solo record? Frankly, I don´t want a next YTO. And Paul´s solo concerts consist 70% of his Old hits (and probably old people, too...) So what´s the difference? Yes, Paul dances a bit more :-)

I think we´ll just have to wait and see; I hope Paul will find his way to be creative again. He´ll do what he think is right, and I´d be happy about a new solo album AND/OR S&G album...

S&G is a part of Paul people!

Looking forward to the summer S&G tour...

Marieno
Feb-07-2004, 16:56 GMT
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France

I totally agree with Bodo, can´t say it better; i think that this tour is a big mistake, it´s pathetic, S&G, this "Old act" in concert, every night the same old songs...I hope that they won´t go in Europe...Schanulleke (thanks for the childish comment), believe me, i don´t hate AG at all, but as i said before, S&G are dead in 1970... i thought that Paul wanted to avoid to become an "old act" who plays only for money...
And now, this rumour about a S&G new album...Ok, they will do what they´ll want , but me too...i´m not sure to want to buy this album...

Julie
Feb-07-2004, 16:57 GMT
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United Kingdom

""His fans are the smartest sweetest people you´ll ever find "" says Willow.

Well Willow you´ve just summed up in one sentence exactly why I HATE the AG forum. Give me the real people on AMPS any day of the week. :-P

Bodo
Feb-07-2004, 17:07 GMT
IP:
Austria

Paul´s concerts contain EVERY music from every part of his career, not 70% Old songs.
On his last tours he always played:
4 or more songs from YTO
4 songs from ROTS
5 songs from Graceland
1 song from H&B
1 song from OTP
2 songs from Still crazy
2 songs from Rhymin Simon
1 song from Paul Simon
2 songs from bridge
2 song from Sounds Of Silence
1 song from Parsley, SAge...
1 song from Bookends

That´s an catalogue not many artists have, it´s thrilling to listen to such a concert, full of hit´s

And what did S&G play?
The played 9 songs from the Bridge album (he okay, the album was good, but there aren´t 9 hit songs on it)

Paul played 2 hours, without talking a lot - so it´s 2 hours of pure music.
S&G also played 2 hours, but they talked nearly 20 minutes of that time, the Ever´ys played 10 minutes, and 2 short movies were shown. I prefer to pay 50$ for a Paul Simon hit show, not 150 for a S&G talk show with 2/3 less hit´s.

Bodo
Feb-07-2004, 17:25 GMT
IP:
Austria

That´s true - I also had the same feelings before I saw the show, that I will miss a life time chance. And I thought that they will be good, because so many reviews say that this was great. But compared to other artists and other reunion shows it wasn´t really good. They couldn´t reproduce the sound from that time (also 1993 was better IMO), the band was too heavy also, S&G are a duo with guitar, not a 9 piece band - and even Paul plays most of the Old S&G tunes alone at his show´s, just listen to Old Friends, Homeward Bound or Sounds Of Silence or also The Boxer from the Paris 2000 show.
They didn´t harmonize well also, but I guess they will fix that on the DVD. Paul now has a much stronger and louder voice than 10 years ago, and Art´s voice is more quiet (I know he can still reach the high notes but there isn´t power behind them) so the mix sounds very strange live. The Best songs are the one´s when Art or Paul do a verse alone.

Bodo
Feb-07-2004, 17:53 GMT
IP:
Austria

I hope the pressure from outside to S&G isn´t too big, so that they don´t think "Ok we have to do this album now"
We, the small group of Paul Simon fan´s are at least too weak to do anything.

It´s interesting that the same thing at the moment is happening now in another group - I sometimes read the Queen newsgroup, and they have the same problem. There is a huge crowd of fan´s who want that the rest of the band members do a new album under the name of Queen. This name sells very good, even without the singer Freddie Mercury.
And there are some really die hard fans which can´t stand this idea. For them Queen is/was a periode of the 70´s and 80´s, it´s a lifestyle, a fashion of that time and with a new album under this name now in 2004 the history of this band will be changed.
I have the same feelings about S&G. S&G are a part of the 60´s, in every documentation about music history they will be mentioned as a main part of that aera, a super-act no one can destroy today because the history is already written. But with a new album, another re-reunion tour they have to mess up with the stars from today, people like Norah Jones or Alanis Morisette... singer songwriters of this time periode. And there also will be bad reviews, which could turn S&G´s super-star-career from the 60´s into a simply ´a-few-hit-wonder´
I think they shouldn´t mess up with albums like Bridge from that time, they will always loose, but the criticals will compare them with S&G from the 60´s. And until now I think everyone was afraid of beeing really critical about their voices and new arrangements, but when I ask musicians, people I knew personaly, then they always tell me that it doesn´t sound good. SOS wasn´t better as at the Grammys show, and if you really think about it then you realize that you only like it because S&G do it now again after so many years. That you are a fan and don´t think twice about it. But really no one I showed the DVD of the Wilkes Barre show said:"Well nice, that sounds good"... most tried to say it the nice way "Yes, they also get older..."

Ans Koenen
Feb-07-2004, 18:20 GMT
IP:
Netherlands

I didn´t see a show or a bootleg DVD but heard the CD from Wilkes Barre, and the first thing I tought was that it did not sound good, the Art fans will not agree with this but Art´s voice sounds hoarse and they didn´t harmonize at all.

I´m beginning to think that they should do a minimum of European concerts and not let the pressure get to big. Paul shouldn´t let himself be forced to make a S&G album because the crowd wants it. I´m sure he will regrett it later.

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