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Bodo
Dec-31-2003, 14:01 GMT
IP:
Austria

I still think Paul makes better music because of his time with Art!
Well after S&G break up Paul started to study jazz to improve his guitar playing. That made his simple sound from the 60´s (3 or 4 chord songs and travis pickin) much better.
I also know that Paul always had a hard fight to bring in his more uptempo songs - simply because Art isn´t able to sing them.
Together with Art we wouldn´T have songs like 50 ways, Kodachrome, Late In The Evening, You can call me All (eh full Graceland and ROTS album wouldn´t exist) - these songs are World Hit´s.

McCartney get´s the crowds today thats right, but there is one difference - he never made the mistake of an reunion whatever the fan´s said. He is an absolute free man.

David
Dec-31-2003, 14:12 GMT
IP:
Germany

But if all the Beatles were alive today, and they did get together....what a concert that would be. And the ticket prices we paid for the USA concerts would pale into insignifigance against the prices you would have to pay for those concerts. And I´m sure there would be very few people going to those concerts saying....."God, McCartney is so talented. Why are the Beatles back together. They bring him down. His writing, his voice. Paul is better alone!!"

I´m sure even the diehard McCartney fans would accept it for what it is. A reminisence, a back to the roots one off. As long as it doesn´t ruin his solo stuff, why not. And the same goes for Paul Simon and Artie. Why shouldn´t they play together for perhaps the last time. There will be enough time, I am sure, for the "solo" fans get get to see them again solo. I see this tour as a bonus, a chance to say thanks and goodbye to Simon AND Garfunkel. I am sure and hope that we are not saying goodbye to them individually! Just the together bit! And Nobody is forcing Paul to do the concerts! I´m sure that if he were truely unhappy about it he would stop doing it. He is a grown up man afterall!

We should all just enjoy them being together for the meantime. God knows it won´t be forever. And gratefull that Paul is still performing at all! He´ll be back on his own soon enough.

Bodo
Dec-31-2003, 14:19 GMT
IP:
Austria

No 3 most played song on all radio staions in the US: BOTW. Most covered song in music history: BOTW. (Even covered by Elvis and Sinatra!) The song Paul chose to sing at Tribute to Heros: BOTW
Undoubtedly this is the greatest Paul Simon song. It may not be your favourite (it isn´t mine!) and you may not agree with the facts, but this was Paul´s most succesfull song (statisticly anyway.)

... Soft Parachutes

I agree, Paul Simon should have stopped his career after that song, because he couldn´t make a better song.

Or wait,
Grammy for best album of the year -Still Crazy After All These Years

Grammy for the best album of the year - Graceland

Grammy nomination - best album of the year ROTS
Grammy nomination - best album of the year YTO

He showed us 2 times that he can have the same success without Mr Garfunkel. And still the fans cried in 2000 "Without S&G he would have been nothing..."

Artists go on, develop and create the future - fan´s will always live in their memory´s

David Bowie hate´s to play Heroe´s ... but he does.

Ans Koenen 
Dec-31-2003, 14:37 GMT
IP:
Netherlands

Hi David,

How nice of you to talk a little bit in the dutch language.
There are only a few songs I like where Paul and Art sing together, Scarborough Fair/Canticle, The Dangling Conversation for example.
But Art´s voice isn´t good at all these days, I heard Wilkes Barre and their voices don´t blend anymore together.

I saw Boudewijn de Groot 2 times last year and he is the best Dutch musician IMO,you´r gone Love his show. But I don´t understand what you mean that he should be benefited by a partner, like Paul he doesn´t need a partner, but Boudewijn had a dear friend and writing partner Lennaert Nijgh who sadly died last year.

It´s sad that the crowds don´t listen better to Paul´s solo music, he certainly deserves it.

I saw in the fan data base you live in Mönchengladbach, it´s not so far from where I live. I live in a small village between Venlo and Nijmegen.

Groetjes, en ook een gelukkig nieuwjaar, Ans

Ans Koenen
Dec-31-2003, 15:08 GMT
IP:
Netherlands

I defenitely agree with you, Bodo.
And also the concert in CP 1991.
If you compare it with 1981.

1981 - 500.000 people
1991 - 750.000 people just for Paul alone.
Paul did a great job, and he had a great band with him. They played superb and had such a good connection together.

Sumit 
Jan-01-2004, 02:21 GMT
IP:
Australia

The numbers don´t prove anything actually. The most highly attended concert in Central Park was Garth Brooks in 1997 when 1.2 million people turned up! I don´t think Garth is a better artist than Paul Simon!!

I don´t think we can speculate about what might have been. We can discuss what has happened and it is safe to say that Paul has maintained a very high standard of work that will stand the test of time. GO PAUL! At the end of the day his career will be measured by what he did with Art Garfunkel and not what he did alone. He is a giant of the industry because of Simon and Garfunkel and accept it or not, that is his TRUE glory!

PS: The talent arguments are worthless too.

Sumit 
Jan-01-2004, 02:29 GMT
IP:
Australia

Ans Koenen, we can´t assume things about Paul and Art by what they do on stage. In the 1960s, which according to Paul the best years of his life, he barely spoke on stage when performing. He has NEVER been a big talker. I doubt if he is freer in his musical songwriting because of the abscence of Art. You rarely see any highly ranging vocal Paul Simon songs anymore. He rarely writes great ballads which were his great strength and he is drifting more and more into Jazz.

At the end of the day we can´t assume what they feel about each other. I personally feel he is a lot happier with Art around. I mean come on...a friend of 50 years!

Ans Koenen
Jan-01-2004, 07:58 GMT
IP:
Netherlands

Well Sumit, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Paul always wrote the music just the way he wanted it to be and he moved on and explored different styles of music.

Well, I think we have different opinions about Paul´s music and that´s OK.

Paul should create the music he believes in. He is the creator, we are the fans.

David
Jan-01-2004, 14:11 GMT
IP:
Germany

Hai Ans, inderdaad woon ik in MG. Dat zijn 25 km naar Venlo en mischien aleen 50 km naar jou! Maar ik kan de nedelerlense tall niet zo goet. Het is beter als ik in het engels schrijv! Well the debate could go on forever! However I must agree with Summit....it is unfair to compare Pauls´ talent to Arts´. Especially as both have a million times more musical talent than I ever will!! And kudos to you Bodo, Paul has won shit-loads of awards. He truely is one of the greats. I was only pointing out that his greatest song. His greatest and most popular track......was sung and made famous by another singer!! Although....if S&G were to record the version of Bridge that they sung on the "Old Friends" tour......well Paul really proved that he could sing his song just as well as Art then, didn´t he. Wow. All that were there would agree I´m sure.....Paul can sing Bridge just as well as Art. In fact, Paul carried Art during some of the songs......

Anyway......tot later!

Bodo
Jan-01-2004, 16:19 GMT
IP:
Austria

I doubt if he is freer in his musical songwriting because of the abscence of Art. You rarely see any highly ranging vocal Paul Simon songs anymore. He rarely writes great ballads which were his great strength and he is drifting more and more into Jazz.

Well you exactly explained why he is free in his musical songwriting, while you said that you doubt he isn´t - He IS free because he DOESN´T have to write songs for another singer. That´s the point, and you got it. He doesn´t have to write highly ranging vocal he can´t sing but another singer can - so he doesn´t have to write songs for other persons. He is free.
Writing songs for another musician is a sad job - ask Bernie Taupin (if you know him by name)... Elton John get´s all the praise but he doesn´t write the songs. I doubt that Taupin would do that if he could sing.
And then the 2nd point (which I can´t follow exactly because I don´t hear a lot of Jazz elements in Paul´s music today...) - but Jazz is the most free music which is possible.

Bodo
Jan-01-2004, 16:22 GMT
IP:
Austria

So there are no arguments..hm,
I´m still wondering why these true friends broke their friendship for 3 times and didn´T talk to each other for 10 years if the don´t have any arguments

Bodo
Jan-01-2004, 16:50 GMT
IP:
Austria

4 times (sorry), not 3 times...

Ans Koenen
Jan-01-2004, 17:11 GMT
IP:
Netherlands

Hoi David,

Your Dutch is pretty good, Boudewijn de Groot sings only in Dutch, but I think you can understand the lyrics, we had great seats last year in Doetinchem 5th row in the middle, I really loved his show.

Groetjes Ans.

Ans Koenen
Jan-01-2004, 17:16 GMT
IP:
Netherlands

You explained it just the way I feel about it.
I think I got the wrong examples,there were personal differences but the most important matter is that Paul is free without Art to sing and perform his songs just the way he wants them.

Bodo
Jan-02-2004, 16:40 GMT
IP:
Austria

Absolute true - and what Paul said at the concert´s is just that he is to tired to argue anymore. He smiles and say´s: Well, that´s your opinion
and I r e s p e c t it. (with a meaningful smile..)

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